<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Commenti a: Se Budda diventa una forza politica</title>
	<atom:link href="http://www.gadlerner.it/2008/03/19/se-budda-diventa-una-forza-politica.html/feed" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://www.gadlerner.it/2008/03/19/se-budda-diventa-una-forza-politica.html</link>
	<description>Il blog del Bastardo</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Sat, 11 Feb 2012 16:40:22 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1</generator>
	<item>
		<title>Di: ilja</title>
		<link>http://www.gadlerner.it/2008/03/19/se-budda-diventa-una-forza-politica.html/comment-page-1#comment-22238</link>
		<dc:creator>ilja</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 08:46:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.gadlerner.it/index.php/2008/03/19/se-budda-diventa-una-forza-politica.html#comment-22238</guid>
		<description>Tibet: una - forse ridondante - ma certamente interessante e toccante intervista con Buldrini (RR, 28/3/08, 22.44; anche le seguenti)
http://www.radioradicale.it/palinsesto/2008/3/28</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tibet: una &#8211; forse ridondante &#8211; ma certamente interessante e toccante intervista con Buldrini (RR, 28/3/08, 22.44; anche le seguenti)<br />
<a href="http://www.radioradicale.it/palinsesto/2008/3/28" rel="nofollow">http://www.radioradicale.it/palinsesto/2008/3/28</a></p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>Di: ilja</title>
		<link>http://www.gadlerner.it/2008/03/19/se-budda-diventa-una-forza-politica.html/comment-page-1#comment-20611</link>
		<dc:creator>ilja</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 10:11:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.gadlerner.it/index.php/2008/03/19/se-budda-diventa-una-forza-politica.html#comment-20611</guid>
		<description>#38 - adele,
manco di tua erudizione ma sono convinto che non ci sia molta differenza tra le dittature, totalitarismi o come li vuoi chiamare - e non mi interessa molto se mostrano la faccia di Stalin, Ceausescu o Wojtyla, per essere brutale.

Pero quello che hai da dire mi interesserebbe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#38 &#8211; adele,<br />
manco di tua erudizione ma sono convinto che non ci sia molta differenza tra le dittature, totalitarismi o come li vuoi chiamare &#8211; e non mi interessa molto se mostrano la faccia di Stalin, Ceausescu o Wojtyla, per essere brutale.</p>
<p>Pero quello che hai da dire mi interesserebbe.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>Di: adele</title>
		<link>http://www.gadlerner.it/2008/03/19/se-budda-diventa-una-forza-politica.html/comment-page-1#comment-20609</link>
		<dc:creator>adele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 10:06:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.gadlerner.it/index.php/2008/03/19/se-budda-diventa-una-forza-politica.html#comment-20609</guid>
		<description>33- Molti &quot;scienziati&quot; e analisti storici vorrebbero far passare questa rivoluzione ,come una sorta di colpo di Stato, per continuare a denigrare un povero popolo che di miserie ne ha subite tante. Allo stesso modo, con molta superficialità classificano il regime del clown Ceaucescu fra le dittature comuniste, ma ciò è falso. Quel regime ,che ebbe l&#039;appoggio di molte potenze occidentali (Andreotti era amico del conducator)aveva tutt&#039;altra natura (sono in grado di fornire anche prove)e si era distaccato dal Comecon, già dopo il colpo di Stato istituzionale operato dal dittatore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>33- Molti &quot;scienziati&quot; e analisti storici vorrebbero far passare questa rivoluzione ,come una sorta di colpo di Stato, per continuare a denigrare un povero popolo che di miserie ne ha subite tante. Allo stesso modo, con molta superficialità classificano il regime del clown Ceaucescu fra le dittature comuniste, ma ciò è falso. Quel regime ,che ebbe l&#8217;appoggio di molte potenze occidentali (Andreotti era amico del conducator)aveva tutt&#8217;altra natura (sono in grado di fornire anche prove)e si era distaccato dal Comecon, già dopo il colpo di Stato istituzionale operato dal dittatore.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>Di: ilja</title>
		<link>http://www.gadlerner.it/2008/03/19/se-budda-diventa-una-forza-politica.html/comment-page-1#comment-20608</link>
		<dc:creator>ilja</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 10:05:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.gadlerner.it/index.php/2008/03/19/se-budda-diventa-una-forza-politica.html#comment-20608</guid>
		<description>#34 - io parlavo di vittime e di sangue pensando a cosa eventualmente possiamo aspettarci in Cina.
Penso che li prima del &#039;89 sta per arrivare un &#039;56.

E vorrei sapere che faremo noi:

&quot;If freedom-loving people throughout the world do not speak out against China and the Chinese in Tibet, we have lost all moral authority to speak out on human rights,&quot; Ms Pelosi told a crowd of thousands of cheering Tibetan exiles, including monks and schoolchildren, in Dharamsala.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#34 &#8211; io parlavo di vittime e di sangue pensando a cosa eventualmente possiamo aspettarci in Cina.<br />
Penso che li prima del &#8217;89 sta per arrivare un &#8217;56.</p>
<p>E vorrei sapere che faremo noi:</p>
<p>&quot;If freedom-loving people throughout the world do not speak out against China and the Chinese in Tibet, we have lost all moral authority to speak out on human rights,&quot; Ms Pelosi told a crowd of thousands of cheering Tibetan exiles, including monks and schoolchildren, in Dharamsala.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>Di: occasionalmente anonimo</title>
		<link>http://www.gadlerner.it/2008/03/19/se-budda-diventa-una-forza-politica.html/comment-page-1#comment-20606</link>
		<dc:creator>occasionalmente anonimo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 10:02:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.gadlerner.it/index.php/2008/03/19/se-budda-diventa-una-forza-politica.html#comment-20606</guid>
		<description>Per gli scrittori del barocco spagnolo, la Polonia era un regno di favola, un posto esotico ed immaginario nel quale far svolgere drammi e commedie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Per gli scrittori del barocco spagnolo, la Polonia era un regno di favola, un posto esotico ed immaginario nel quale far svolgere drammi e commedie.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>Di: adele</title>
		<link>http://www.gadlerner.it/2008/03/19/se-budda-diventa-una-forza-politica.html/comment-page-1#comment-20605</link>
		<dc:creator>adele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 09:57:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.gadlerner.it/index.php/2008/03/19/se-budda-diventa-una-forza-politica.html#comment-20605</guid>
		<description>&quot;ungheresi&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;ungheresi&quot;</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>Di: adele</title>
		<link>http://www.gadlerner.it/2008/03/19/se-budda-diventa-una-forza-politica.html/comment-page-1#comment-20604</link>
		<dc:creator>adele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 09:57:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.gadlerner.it/index.php/2008/03/19/se-budda-diventa-una-forza-politica.html#comment-20604</guid>
		<description>32- Sono daccordo, Ilja. E direi anche che i veri popoli proletari erano proprio polacchi, romeni, slovacchi,lituani...Altri come ungherisi, tedeschi, cechi hanno sempre goduto di privilegi maggiori come stirpi, anche sotto la sovietizzazione</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>32- Sono daccordo, Ilja. E direi anche che i veri popoli proletari erano proprio polacchi, romeni, slovacchi,lituani&#8230;Altri come ungherisi, tedeschi, cechi hanno sempre goduto di privilegi maggiori come stirpi, anche sotto la sovietizzazione</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>Di: ilja</title>
		<link>http://www.gadlerner.it/2008/03/19/se-budda-diventa-una-forza-politica.html/comment-page-1#comment-20600</link>
		<dc:creator>ilja</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 09:45:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.gadlerner.it/index.php/2008/03/19/se-budda-diventa-una-forza-politica.html#comment-20600</guid>
		<description>incollo qualcosa dalla Wiki per chi non ricordasse

&quot;...the crowd started to chant anticommunist slogans. Consequently, police and Securitate forces showed up at the scene. By 7:30 p.m., the protest had spread out, and the original cause became largely irrelevant. Some of the protesters attempted to burn down the building that housed the District Committee of the Romanian Communist Party (PCR). The Securitate responded with tear gas and water jets, while the police beat up rioters and arrested many of them. Around 9:00 p.m., the rioters withdrew. They regrouped eventually around the Romanian Orthodox Cathedral and started a protest march around the city, but again they were confronted by the security forces.

Riots and protests resumed the following day, December 17. The rioters broke into the District Committee building and threw Party documents, propaganda brochures, Ceau?escu&#039;s writings, and other symbols of communist power out the windows. Again, the protesters attempted to set the building on fire, but this time they were stopped by military units. The significance of the army presence in the streets was an ominous one: This meant that they had received their orders from the highest level of the command chain, presumably from Ceau?escu himself. Although the army failed to establish order, it succeeded in turning Timi?oara into a living hell: gunfire, casualties, fights and burning cars, Transport Auto Blindat (TAB) (APC) armored personnel carriers, tanks, and stores. After 8:00 p.m., from Pia?a Libert??ii (Liberty Square) to the Opera there was wild shooting, including the area of Decebal bridge, Calea Lipovei (Lipovei Avenue), and Calea Girocului (Girocului Avenue). Tanks, trucks, and TABs blocked the accesses into the city while helicopters hovered overhead. After midnight the protests calmed down. Ion Coman, Ilie Matei, and ?tefan Gu?? inspected the city, in which some areas looked like the aftermath of a war: destruction, ash, and blood.

The morning of December 18, the centre was being guarded by soldiers and Securitate-agents in plainclothes. Mayor Mo? ordered a Party gathering to take place at the University, with the purpose of condemning the &quot;vandalism&quot; of the previous days. He also declared martial law, prohibiting people from going about in groups larger than two people. Defying the curfew, a group of 30 young men headed for the Orthodox Cathedral, where they stopped and waved a Romanian flag from which they had removed the Romanian Communist coat of arms. Expecting that they would be fired upon, they started to sing &quot;De?teapt?-te, române!&quot; (Wake up, Romanians), an earlier national song that had been banned since 1947. They were, indeed, fired upon and some died, and others were seriously injured, while the lucky ones were able to escape.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>incollo qualcosa dalla Wiki per chi non ricordasse</p>
<p>&quot;&#8230;the crowd started to chant anticommunist slogans. Consequently, police and Securitate forces showed up at the scene. By 7:30 p.m., the protest had spread out, and the original cause became largely irrelevant. Some of the protesters attempted to burn down the building that housed the District Committee of the Romanian Communist Party (PCR). The Securitate responded with tear gas and water jets, while the police beat up rioters and arrested many of them. Around 9:00 p.m., the rioters withdrew. They regrouped eventually around the Romanian Orthodox Cathedral and started a protest march around the city, but again they were confronted by the security forces.</p>
<p>Riots and protests resumed the following day, December 17. The rioters broke into the District Committee building and threw Party documents, propaganda brochures, Ceau?escu&#8217;s writings, and other symbols of communist power out the windows. Again, the protesters attempted to set the building on fire, but this time they were stopped by military units. The significance of the army presence in the streets was an ominous one: This meant that they had received their orders from the highest level of the command chain, presumably from Ceau?escu himself. Although the army failed to establish order, it succeeded in turning Timi?oara into a living hell: gunfire, casualties, fights and burning cars, Transport Auto Blindat (TAB) (APC) armored personnel carriers, tanks, and stores. After 8:00 p.m., from Pia?a Libert??ii (Liberty Square) to the Opera there was wild shooting, including the area of Decebal bridge, Calea Lipovei (Lipovei Avenue), and Calea Girocului (Girocului Avenue). Tanks, trucks, and TABs blocked the accesses into the city while helicopters hovered overhead. After midnight the protests calmed down. Ion Coman, Ilie Matei, and ?tefan Gu?? inspected the city, in which some areas looked like the aftermath of a war: destruction, ash, and blood.</p>
<p>The morning of December 18, the centre was being guarded by soldiers and Securitate-agents in plainclothes. Mayor Mo? ordered a Party gathering to take place at the University, with the purpose of condemning the &quot;vandalism&quot; of the previous days. He also declared martial law, prohibiting people from going about in groups larger than two people. Defying the curfew, a group of 30 young men headed for the Orthodox Cathedral, where they stopped and waved a Romanian flag from which they had removed the Romanian Communist coat of arms. Expecting that they would be fired upon, they started to sing &quot;De?teapt?-te, române!&quot; (Wake up, Romanians), an earlier national song that had been banned since 1947. They were, indeed, fired upon and some died, and others were seriously injured, while the lucky ones were able to escape.&quot;</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>Di: ilja</title>
		<link>http://www.gadlerner.it/2008/03/19/se-budda-diventa-una-forza-politica.html/comment-page-1#comment-20596</link>
		<dc:creator>ilja</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 09:38:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.gadlerner.it/index.php/2008/03/19/se-budda-diventa-una-forza-politica.html#comment-20596</guid>
		<description>#31 - perche i Polacchi, a differenza dai   Tedeschi o Ungheresi, hanno per anni lottato, rischiato e sono stati repressi per arrivare al 89; perche Ceausescu e Securitate non sono caduti senza far vittime.

Penso che sarebbe opportuno parlare di Cina (e altri) come di una criminale dittatura Comunista che continua ad usare i metodi Leninisti e Stalinisti per mantenere il controllo e sottomettere le popolazioni.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#31 &#8211; perche i Polacchi, a differenza dai   Tedeschi o Ungheresi, hanno per anni lottato, rischiato e sono stati repressi per arrivare al 89; perche Ceausescu e Securitate non sono caduti senza far vittime.</p>
<p>Penso che sarebbe opportuno parlare di Cina (e altri) come di una criminale dittatura Comunista che continua ad usare i metodi Leninisti e Stalinisti per mantenere il controllo e sottomettere le popolazioni.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>Di: adele</title>
		<link>http://www.gadlerner.it/2008/03/19/se-budda-diventa-una-forza-politica.html/comment-page-1#comment-20591</link>
		<dc:creator>adele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 09:19:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.gadlerner.it/index.php/2008/03/19/se-budda-diventa-una-forza-politica.html#comment-20591</guid>
		<description>4- Ilja, una curiosità : Perchè dici &quot;a parte Polonia e Romania&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>4- Ilja, una curiosità : Perchè dici &quot;a parte Polonia e Romania&quot;?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>

<!-- Performance optimized by W3 Total Cache. Learn more: http://www.w3-edge.com/wordpress-plugins/

Minified using apc
Page Caching using apc
Database Caching 1/15 queries in 0.015 seconds using disk
Object Caching 384/387 objects using apc

Served from: www.gadlerner.it @ 2012-02-11 16:41:20 -->
